1. Jagdeep DESAI
    Jagdeep DESAI September 9, 2012 at 4:32 pm . Reply

    Point taken.

    Nowadays, the security situation being what it is, no one can afford to allow a free access in any building, NHAI toll booth or the Sena Bhavan.

    Further, imagine the plight of students from Rizvi College of Architecture wanting to see the buildings in Bhabha Atomic Energy Centre to study the apartment complexes.

    So a blanket permission may be a good idea, but it can not be taken as a right, unfortunately

  2. Pulkit
    Pulkit September 9, 2012 at 5:07 pm . Reply

    Sir as I mentioned the hypothetical incidence relating to 7, RCR ( Prime minister’s residence ) where the security concern is genuine. Requirement to study such places is rare, studying day to day places such as apartment complex, club houses, malls etc doesn’t raise security issues for sure.
    The white house allows visitors to quite deep an extent without much trouble. Rather no trouble. The west is west, cannot be compared to India yet I believe there is a large large scope to improve our attitude without compromising with security or intellectual property

  3. chitra vishwanath
    chitra vishwanath September 10, 2012 at 3:19 am . Reply

    The students should be allowed to study buildings good or bad- whichever they chose of the architect. We at Biome have no problem with it but would like-
    a)student to have gone through the philosophy of the office as available in the web-site, or any other press and ask “informed” questions.
    b)Students should be expected to walk the premises, take notes, sketch, photograph and study the same by themselves and then revert to the architect with questions, doubts and their assessment. Most of the time students expect the architects to pass on the drawing printouts and they never spend time understanding the whole thing.
    c)I here also fault the academics who do not prepare the students on how to research, what to assess and look for. In such cases of inadequate academic guidance the students are expected to do the case study-which is chosen by students themselves most of the time and then it becomes the responsibility of the concerned architect to guide. Professionals are busy and are not able to give the best of time to students and it in turn frustrates both the parties.
    I conclude that if institutions organize and work at getting the permission from the respective institution and professional there will surely be less hassle than leaving the whole issue to student to tackle.
    The professionals as well as establishment will also feel better when the respective teachers/institute contact them with a letter of introduction or intent before the student approaches them.

  4. Habeeb Khan
    Habeeb Khan September 10, 2012 at 8:48 am . Reply

    The issue mentioned by the student is very pertinent and I can understand the dilemma and anguish faced by him and the student community at large. As a practicing architect I have always endeavored to help any student approaching me or my office. Its a matter of great pride for me and everyone in our office “SMITA & HABEEB KHAN ASSOCIATES”, when students approach us to study our buildings. For us it gives an opportunity to learn and becomes an important learning process. Recently my involvement in academics has increased substantially and as an institution we have come across obstacles, but we have talked over and have been able to solve the problem of access to buildings and permissions.
    Basically this problem pertains to attitudes that we have in our country. Until they change, very little can be achieved. Mass awareness and institutional help and intervention to its students can solve this problem to some extent. Usually institutions per se do not face much problems, but yes when a student approaches individually there is a problem.
    My advise to students in general is very simple:
    1. Instead of waiting for someone to act and solve problems for them, they should get pro-active and act.
    2. For all government buildings one can approach through the RTI and ask relevant questions and rules under which the permission is being denied. Private buildings usually are easily approachable.
    3. Approaching the architect or the maintenance engineer usually always works.
    4. Another approach is the contractor who has worked on the building. Almost every time this works.
    5. Most important point which I want to put across to all students is that unfortunately the system and the attitudes at the moment are what they are. When you grow up and become fellow professionals, do not do what you are facing now. Individually if all the students take pledge to this effect, the situation will change in 5 years…!!
    Every drop counts and together we can make a difference.

  5. Harimohan Pillai
    Harimohan Pillai September 10, 2012 at 10:23 am . Reply

    These concerns will never be addressed by authorities… ASI does not allow sketching/drawing on their sites without written permission from the head office in New Delhi, but photography is permitted!
    Suspicion is the most common Indian response, after jealousy! Only individuals and organizations above these two concerns permit a stranger free access to their built forms and spaces for scrutiny, study, analysis and criticism…

  6. Sabu Francis
    Sabu Francis September 10, 2012 at 11:27 am . Reply

    Open sourcing design is very pertinent and extremely important. I have been advocating this for many, many years and in fact, have set up a website for this http://ww3.teamtad.com It is critical in this information age we need to exchange the “source code” of buildings openly. The student is right; the older generations have done lots of mistakes and we should guide the youngsters at least by being open about what we did. There is a lot of work that needs to be done here. The open source movement has done a lot of good for software and computers. The movement is spreading to other areas too. Good to see that students are waking up this scenario

  7. Nithya Srinivasan
    Nithya Srinivasan September 11, 2012 at 4:57 am . Reply

    I found the issue of insufficient data on buildings that students could use as case studies prevalent when I dealt with thesis design studios or contemporary architecture electives. Students had access to a lot of information on buildings across the world but not of schools, campuses, cultural/sports centers, etc. in India or even in their own cities or towns. Documentation is limited to the photographs in the few architectural journals. InCITE’s exhibitions and publications – Drawings and models, the project files, design walks – are attempts to fill the void, bridge the gap. Details on https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/InCITE/120435167855

  8. Prabhat Kumar
    Prabhat Kumar September 11, 2012 at 8:17 am . Reply

    The issue is extremely important. Case studies and visits to construction sites for architectural students are like attending clinics for a med. student.
    I think the issue must be taken up with Council of Architecture. It must be made mandatory for a practising architect to provide electronic copies of drgs to an accredited architectural student may be through his college. The architects should also be asked to facilitate site visits for them.
    Also the CA should get the Government organisation like ASI, CPWD, NBCC who are generally involved in Planning and construction and various other departments to provide all necessary help for the students.
    Perhaps some guidelines may be evolved which would be binding on these institutions.

  9. Krishna Rao JAISIM
    Krishna Rao JAISIM September 30, 2013 at 10:40 am . Reply

    I do not see why this is not possible. Over FOUR DECADES any student who has desired to visit and study our projects have always been welcomed. The only incidences of refusal or postponement of visit dates have been when there has been a private function or some other reason of the client seeking privacy.
    One other thing. some students go in a crowd like crows and 90 percent of them are not interested but do it as matter of fact. This is annoying.
    It is a two way story.
    Serious young architects and students have always manged to get around hurdles and visit and study sites and projects to their mind and heart content.
    where there is a will there is a way.
    Crying and lamenting is not one of them

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